Invertebrate Pico Reef

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brandon429
Invertebrate Pico Reef
24 Jun 2010 06:13


33+ months mixed invertebrates, mixed scleractinian coral 15+ genera 48+ months at one gallon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIIPFeUd2Q

coralline algae removal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3onG2SvzKc

 

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brandon429
19 Oct 2010 19:56


janw
19 Oct 2010 21:17


Skal vi virkelig ha reine salgsannonser her i forumet? angry
mbe
19 Oct 2010 21:52


Jeg er helt på linje med janw. Dette skal vel være et forum for generelle meningsytringer, spørsmål og informasjon og ikke en salgs- og reklamekanaldissapprove
PerV
19 Oct 2010 22:32


dissapprove

Per
amdb73
19 Oct 2010 23:02


Hvorfor ikke slette denne tråden, gi brandon429 en skriftlig advarsel på norsk og engelsk og hvis det ikke hjelper "ban" ham for godt? dissapproveevil

:o) hilsen Alf Marius
oyvind
20 Oct 2010 00:13


Dette er nok ikke ment som reklame, heller selvskryt.

Det finnes et lite miljø med saltvannsakvarister som konkurrerer om å klare å holde liv i så små korallrevsakvarier som mulig.

Korallrevsbonsai?

Hvorfor vedkommende har postet det her - ja, det kan man lure på...

Se på det som en kuriositet.

Skulle det derimot dukke opp rene reklameinnlegg, er jeg helt enig i at det bør slettes.

Øyvind
klaush
20 Oct 2010 09:35


Etter å ha vært gjennom en utrivelig og ustoppelig krangletråd her forleden begynner jeg å bli litt skeptisk til å fyre altfor hardt. Bedre å roe seg litt. Hvis fyren fortsetter, bør han få en advarsel.
oyvind
20 Oct 2010 10:06


Hvorfor er det så galt å vise frem akvariene sine?

Øyvind
klaush
20 Oct 2010 11:35


Enig med Øyvind. La ham få en sjanse. Synes det er litt bråkjekt å komme med mishagsytringer og sure og sinte fjes med en eneste gang. Dette kan veldig lett fyre opp en krangel, noe brandon429 har god grunn til dersom han seriøst ønsker å vise akvariene sine.

Men dersom han fortsetter og det virker som om dette er reklame, kan vi jo høflig skrive at "Spør en biolog" ikke er forum for kommersiell virksomhet.
oyvind
20 Oct 2010 21:19


Forutsatt at omtalen hans av dette toliters glasskrukkekorallrevet er sann, må jeg innrømme at det er ganske imponerende - og morsomt å se. Om det passer inn i kategorien "verd å vite" er jeg imidlertid litt usikker på.

Jeg vet ikke om dere har sett på de andre innleggene hans, men et av dem er etter hva jeg kan forstå, fornuftig. http://www.biologforeningen.org/enbiolog/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16844

Det er mulig at det er jeg som blir lurt trill rundtblush, men i dette innlegget (http://www.biologforeningen.org/enbiolog/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17356) antyder han at han følger med på Spør en biolog ved hjelp av oversetteren til Google.

I så fall synes jeg han i det minste fortjener litt kredit for innsatsen...

På den annen side har vi i det siste opplevd eksempler på både spammere og folk som bare ønsker å ødelegge. Å være mistenksom når det fra tid til annen dukker opp litt underlige innlegg er helt klart på sin plass.

Øyvind
brandon429
21 Oct 2010 06:35


So sorry I took too long to get back, Ive posted these before and no one responded wasn't expecting the response!

I am a biologist here in USA and simply wanted to show you all my work and discuss things like muting of coral allelopathy, micro ecosystem evolution within confined spaces and things assorted they said couldn't be done 5 years ago. Thanks for not locking the thread, I'll stay, please ask away any questions I promise to come back.

These are the oldest pico reefs you will find, I invented and perfected coral growth at this volume and am willing to discuss any aspect of it, nice to meet you all.

I can understand how it might seem like a troll, allow me to defend:

-these systems are sealed or mostly sealed, restricting evaporation where a 1l coral reef can function without evaporation and salinity shifting. the vids simply provide the details.

I was hoping to show where invertebrates occupy certain niches in the pico reef long term, the worlds smallest ecocosm.

Questions if you have any will be promptly answered, and ideally, someone please set up one of these and we'll coach it publicly here, this is a repeatable science/art inviting anyone to stop by!
Brandon M
brandon429
21 Oct 2010 06:47


I was led to your forum by following youtube links from a poster here named Edmund, discussing algal growth in the vase. It simply leads me to other science buffs just a way of meeting new people and discussing a unique art. I have displayed these in many public places to forward the beneficial aspects of this kind of work, coral sustenance. all my corals are captive grown, not from the natural reefs, its a model of sustenance and replenishment actually working and beconing study, as I see it :)

some of the more notable physical features of the bowl are:

-the natural skimming effect at the surface, on the curved inner surfaces of the bowl, which are wiped occasionally and accomplish N and P export to avoid eutrophication.

-the ability of the airstone driven system to be simple and the most effective means of carbon dioxide scrubbing possible in a small vessel, powerheads alone do not compete. This lends pH stability by lessening the effect of carbonic acid during diurnal cycles.

-caco3 is supplemented in a two part common doser I have scaled down, its meant to be used in takes 20x this size. The vase is the oldest currently living pico reef worldwise, I am 100% certain. Part of these ventures internationally is to seek proof otherwise, asking for anyone elses dated vids and pics :)

-feeding and presentation of diverse benthic flora and fauna, while eliminating primary producer infestations like green hair algae, is accomplished not by sparse feeding which starves the tank and is intended to preserve water quality, but by a simple coupling of the feeding intervals to the water change intervals. By only feeding the tank substantially, just before a 100% water change, all animals are fed across the food web including spongers, sabellids, corals, etc (all shown in the vids) and the quick water change takes 3 mins and is done weekly, these tanks are also the most stable of any reef tank because salinity, temperature, purity and procedure are already set, no experimentation needed.

Nothing is for sale, I want someone to set one up and let me prove from afar my science is very serious~~
B
janw
21 Oct 2010 07:01


Hi Brandon, I'm sorry I misinterpreted your posting for a sales adverticement. We're just not used to postings consisting of just links and no context. So thanks for the explanation. Very interesting! smile
brandon429
21 Oct 2010 07:11


if I could see how to post pictures I wouldn't have to link, but here are some stills for detailed analysis.

What you have here is detailed, overlapping growth of acroporids with about 10 other genera of zoanthus and mixed scleractinians sharing space in a reef three inches wide not skimmed and not having nematocycst or allelopathic chemical interaction, no death or tissue recession (necrosis/bleaching)

its a tiny way to study coral bleaching. bleaching does not occur in these reefs barring hardware failure, they become highly colonized, look for detial in benthic growth not just coral growth~
I made a post in this forum to talk to German scientists who are pico reef masters, Daniel Knopp. Its a way for me to show you pictures and encourage discussion in your forum if thats ok.

if not tell me and I'll remove anything you want, no troll here.

http://www.coralmagazine-us.com/content/aged-gallon-and-half-gallon-mixed-sps-reefs-2001-2010

brandon429
21 Oct 2010 07:14


nice to meet you the web is full of that behavior understand concerns I really respect what Ive read on this board its wonderfully complex and with my translators I can read your sharpest science writings across scopes of science ecology mainly is what im reading on your board right now!
janw
21 Oct 2010 07:44


No no no don't remove it smile Myself I'm a terrestrial botanist, but I find your postings very interesting to read, and I'm sure there are others here who might even be more practically interested.
amdb73
21 Oct 2010 08:41


I'm sorry Brandon M that I misunderstood your post! approve
We have been having some unserious people here, among those a spammer. angry So I guess some of us, have a little to short fuse.

I guess that your achievement is great, but I don't have knowledge to understand the whole thing though. approve

Then I wish you on my behalf good luck, and I'm hoping you will get a better response on your postings in the future! wink



:o) hilsen Alf Marius
klaush
21 Oct 2010 09:56


Øyvind og jeg hadde rett: "Give him a chance!"bigsmile
amdb73
21 Oct 2010 11:34


Du får ikke sole deg for mye i glansen nå Klaus. winkwink

:o) hilsen Alf Marius
klaush
21 Oct 2010 12:03


Give peace a chance!bigsmile
brandon429
21 Oct 2010 14:41


give pico reefs a chance :) thank you all very much for contributing!
oyvind
22 Oct 2010 00:21


brandon429:

If you want to post pictures, use the paperclip.
"Bla gjennom" means "Browse".
Press the "Klikk for å laste inn"-button to upload.

And the help section in the menu bar is in English.

Good luck! smile

Øyvind
brandon429
22 Oct 2010 03:18













thank you! that was very helpful, here are some test uploads of the sealed reef, the one that does not evaporate to control gas exchange between oxygen and co2, it is nine inches long and almost 4 inches wide supporting full tabular growth of acropora, in scale...

thanks for your help
brandon429
22 Oct 2010 03:22


And this shot, a reef That Can Also Run Wed 12v while traveling. [Image = 27057]

brandon429
22 Oct 2010 03:23


brandon429
22 Oct 2010 03:31


In marine biology circles, this kind of extended growth, going on five years continual, is not supposed two occur due two chemical warfare Interactions with the Coral, Space competition, competition sweeper (exended stinging tentacles) and heterotrophic competition for the capture of feed items .

I Have something two hypotheses as why this does not occur, testing / confirmation is Ongoing:

-Use of small plugs are dealer button That time to mature, whereas large tanks incoporate large colonies That are matured and ready for war;

Semidilution of water-column two garden a little effect Wed stimulus negation of territorial behaviors in Coral Perhaps extreme concentration and habituation in These tiny environs trains restriction group's two stitches?

Benthic-notice this growth, and the empty vase it came from. this shows how you couple your feeding intervals in a reef aquarium just hours before a large water change two take it all back out of solution. This is only a gallon container, or half gallon in the square one, so its easy do two in three minutes an hour.

you do not feed the reef in between water changes two Slowly poison it, its only fed weekly, Heavily, Simply the water is changed and Because of the lid it doesn't evaporate much Until The next week, this is why the design is inherently stack. Through its timing of events That I farm Attempted two rearranges the modern (and drilling) mode of captive reef study. [Image = 27060]

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brandon429
22 Oct 2010 03:32


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brandon429
22 Oct 2010 03:33


brandon429
08 Aug 2011 01:55


Hello friends, if someone would help me translate that would be great.

I posted here after a couple years to update the biology of the vase reef, its still alive. The ecosystem has evolved numerous organisms, some unable to be identified even by seasoned invertebrate biologists.

here is one item to try and identify, a free swimming motile invertebrate that is not a flatworm and was seen with the unaided eye swimming about the tank.

The goal in keeping this vase going for up to 6 years now is to make observations about the basic needs of the captive coral ecosystem and to rely on biology to shed new light on aquarium science.

This is the oldest living pico reef ecosystem in the world~
Hello friends, if someone would help me translate that would be great.

I posted here after a couple years to update the biology of the vase reef, its still alive. The ecosystem has evolved numerous organisms, some unable to be identified even by seasoned invertebrate biologists.

here is one item to try and identify, a free swimming motile invertebrate that is not a flatworm and was seen with the unaided eye swimming about the tank

The goal in keeping this vase going for up to 6 years now is to make observations about the basic needs of the captive coral ecosystem and to rely on biology to shed new light on aquarium science.

This is the oldest living pico reef ecosystem in the world~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIwyXymjyrk
brandon429
08 Aug 2011 01:58


here are some growth pictures that illustrate the elimination of the allelopathic mechanism seen in scleractinian corals:





brandon429
08 Aug 2011 02:01


here is the organism that goes unidentified. I believe it to be a coral planula packed with zooxanthellae

it is not an acoel flatworm, it has a body cavity and these radiating projections are not common to platyhelminthes:

brandon429
08 Aug 2011 02:01


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brandon429
13 Aug 2011 01:31


another angle
brandon429
17 Oct 2014 06:53


Opprinnelig postet av klaush.
Give peace a chance!bigsmile


My vase is still alive


Just updating, my science project is designed to live indefinitely, there is no other worldwide.

Just thought you'd like to see 9 year update for the vase ecosystem

This is the longest living micro system in the world :

I wanted to keep the original thread going, since the original subject is still alive and has produced many growths of coral for export
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/one-gallon-reefbowl-still-going-strong


brandon429
23 Feb 2017 19:08


brandon429
17 May 2019 22:55


Updating for 2019: the system has no biological lifespan limit. It will run as long as Im around to change the water out once a week, I hope this demonstrates unique biological tuning to keep one system alive and updated this long, ten years, in one single thread. :)

thanks for watching with me!
Brandon

https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2017/12/28/coral-magazine-new-issue-micro-reefs-inside-look/

the latest video update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrjoy4FIlWI
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